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shekar Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 263 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: Airport watch group : Mumbai |
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The concept of having an airport watch group with jackets/id-cards n with a proper permission from the airport authority as mentioned by Aseem in another thread is really exciting.But as stated by Mel,we cant have high hopes...But i say its really worth a try
Maybe we could invest in a P/O box /website and use the photos of experienced members on anet/jet-photos/myaviation etc...
I am listing down the members from Mumbai who are regular/not so regular at spotting...
(1)Vivek Manvi
(2)Vishal jolapara
(3)iflytb20
(4)Yash777
(5)Gauravprakash007
(8)Birendra
(7)Shekar
(8)Avijeet (the_380)
(9)Prajay
(10)Rutvij
(11)saurabhm_101
(12)Jesal
adding two more members.....
(13)Karan
(14)Anuj
looking fwd to a lot of support and encouragement from senior members...and very vigorous action on this front asap
rgds
Shekar
PS:if i have missed out any other members name .....please met me know and ill add it to the list _________________ blue skies :d
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gauravprakash007 Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 37 Location: VABB
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Roger!
I'll give it my 100%! _________________ Lost student pilot: "Unknown airport with Cessna 150 circling overhead, identify yourself."
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Birendra Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Sir aap to mere spotting guru ho.....so mine 100% too |
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yash777 Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 901 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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A good idea......and i'll give it my 100% _________________ Jetphotos Flickr gallery |
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deaphen Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like an excellent idea, even though im not a mumbaite... i hope the membership extends to me too
with ya all th way....
nitin |
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Birendra Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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deaphen wrote: | Sounds like an excellent idea, even though im not a mumbaite... i hope the membership extends to me too
with ya all th way....
nitin |
Sirjee ur the LEAD PHOTOGRAPHER of our forum....ull be asked to chair the Group for spotting. |
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vivekman Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 1897 Location: BOM
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a good idea! I am in for it too. |
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JumboJet Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I suggest that the people who want to create a AWG should contact MIAL office first, and then ask them if something like this can be mooted.
Also, i would suggest you guys to take advice from Karan, Deaphen, Mr.Niji, Mel and Aseem as these guys have considerable experience in such matters.
Good to see that you ppl want to place INDIA in the SPOTTERS LAND too.
Let me know if i can be of any help. _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. |
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Aiel Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 927 Location: Bangalore
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Birendra Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Seems everyone wants to be counted......but WHO IS COUNTING
Anything hapenning on this front |
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rutvij Member
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1390 Location: Skies of Fire!
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: Don't forget me ! |
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I am all for it as well ! Would like AWG asap as my Exams hv just finished !
I still remember my first illegal Spotting session (without my Parent's permission) when in 8th Standard. I used to cycle all the Way from KURLA (East) upto the Airport Boundary Wall of Rwy 27. It had a small Orange Door. I used to Spot those beasts from a small gap comfortably seating on my Cycle which used to rest on the Wall ! |
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Prajay Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 217 Location: Mumbai, India
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Im in 100%
Any help im there to.
Prajay _________________ Wing Commander Bowzienhower - 34th Battalion [Recon and Aerial Operations] |
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deaphen Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 933 Location: India
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ok guys so we need to brainstorm a little about this, now that we have most peoples support.
First of all we need to get as much information from you Aseem about the Watch group on YYZ and i guess we can safely say it willb e more ont he lines of the YYZ watch group.
Secondly, we have to decide the extent and power of becoming a member of such a watch group.
Thirdly, Its important to know if membership will entail a person to be free from harassment from the police at all airports around india (except defence ones ofcourse, its no point even trying to ask for that).
Fourthly, we have to identify which part of the govt we have to talk to, whether to the Civil Aviation Minister, or the DGCA.
Fifthly, I am willing to spearhead this initiative, but what we need is for everyone to post their suggestions and what they feel should be the guidelines and advantages of being a member of such a watchgroup, as well as any other suggestions you may think relevant.
Lets hear you guys.
regards
nitin |
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shekar Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 263 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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lets hear the privileges of the AWG in yyz... _________________ blue skies :d |
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JumboJet Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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After the post of Jun 18th today Jun 22nd there is no support from AWG group at YYZ
I have done a bit of study and shall be posting the findings soon about the permissions and procedures to be followed for spotting permissions et all.
I have studied French spotters and Belgian spotters and some of them have become my friends from the fraternity. _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. |
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aarbee Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 328 Location: WAS/AMD
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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deaphen wrote: |
Thirdly, Its important to know if membership will entail a person to be free from harassment from the police at all airports around india (except defence ones ofcourse, its no point even trying to ask for that).
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Nitin,
I think that this one is too far fetched. IMHO, you should just focus on one place initially and then after it's (hopefully) success, should spread head to other locations after that. |
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Birendra Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Anything hapening on this front guys..... _________________ Dictum meum pactum, "My word is my bond". |
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jayson Member
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Mumbai
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: AT guild |
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i think we must contact the atc guild (www.atcguild.com) for they are more organised and yes, atcs work inside the airport (dumb point;). they could help us into the right procedure to build the AWG.
and i feel that the AWG would be a quite messy thing to formulate coz u know the bureucracy (ah that spelling!) in india especially at the airports.
but lets try....... |
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HAWK21M Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't you folks contact Aseem for tips.
regds
MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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JumboJet Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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HAWK21M wrote: | Why don't you folks contact Aseem for tips.
regds
MEL |
Hmn Nice One Mel....
The kids are waiting since June 18th, 07 (Shekhar's post above) but no response till date.....Some support i must say
I think Mel, you must take lead and give them the addresses of the MIAL concerned people and guide them since you are both responsible and ainet ppl look up to you.
Ur respect rating here is 100% & i feel that it's best that u guide and channelise them. _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. |
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HAWK21M Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Sure.I can get the MIAL contact details & provide them.Can't say how cooperative the Authorities would be though.
But Firstly I think These excellent photographers should get together,form their group with tips from other spotter groups abroad & then only approachj the Authorities assurng them that they will be doing a job that will beneft Indian Aviation.
Rope in the media too.That will help.
Aseem.....Pls guide this entusiastic bunch.
regds
MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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AirIndiaOne Member
Joined: 23 Dec 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Mumbai, IN
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Hey im not on the list !!!! count Karan and Anuj in !
so we have a huge bunch of spotters - that makes the AWG project even more ambitious
im not sure how atcguild can help us with this. But contacting MIAL / BCAS should help.
I will speak to a few guys from the guild to get more inputs on this issue. |
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Birendra Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1411
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JumboJet Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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@Aseem, Mel, Nimish
I think if we claim or make an attempt to suggest that WE LOVE AVIATION, we must in all respects support the endeavours of these young boys.
@Birendra
You have done a splendid job. However i would still suggest you to coordinate with Mel as he is a both a diligent advisor and an inside person (Ex East West now with BDA). He will help you and guide you properly. Also involve Malq......u'd be surprised the moment ur application has his name on it, it will move faster in government circles
@Others, including me
Actions speak louder than words. _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. |
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Nimish Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 9757 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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JumboJet wrote: | @Aseem, Mel, Nimish
I think if we claim or make an attempt to suggest that WE LOVE AVIATION, we must in all respects support the endeavours of these young boys.
@Others, including me
Actions speak louder than words. |
I'm all for it - but that does not help anyone. What's needed is a local "respected person" who can talk to the authorities (starting with the MIAL folks and the MoCA/DGCA) and bounce the idea off the babus and then make a formal proposal. |
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HAWK21M Member
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 8132 Location: Mumbai, INDIA
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed.These folks have excellent photography skill & have contributed a lot to making Aircraft at Indian Airports more visible to the world.
I feel since Aseem has been a part of this group.He could pass info on how they can get organised.Its only after they get organised as a group can they go to step 2 which is interacting with the Authorities.
I'm sure prajay can add to this immensly.
regds
MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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Birendra Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Prajay.....
The ball is now in your court.
Aseem.....
Inputs and guidance on how to approach. _________________ Dictum meum pactum, "My word is my bond". |
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JumboJet Member
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HAWK21M Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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JJ.Edited your post to make the link clickable.
regds
MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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JumboJet Member
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shekar Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 263 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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hey jj......thanks for all the help buddy....but i personally think we should organize ourselves into a proper group before approaching the authorities.
Else we would come across as being very disorganized.
Another thing thats bugging me is that ,at the spot tht we click from,theres NOT MUCH of an interference/harassment by the airport security apart frm the occasional "shuuingg" . Will this initiative end up causing more harm then good ?.... _________________ blue skies :d |
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JumboJet Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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No pain no gain.
If u want ur name to be publicised like most indians want to, then i guess u keep mum about ur location and click pictures and continue to grab all the attention the world showers on you.
OR
If you want to advise and encourage SPOTTING (which is a religion in most parts of the world) then i guess u should forget about the bouquets and be ready to face the brickbats.
U want to be a Mahatama of AWG and not want to wear lion cloth seems a bit dizzy to me _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. |
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shekar Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 263 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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The hillock that we spot from, is the land owned by the airport authority?....cus if it is .....we might en up in some trouble and lose this beautiful spot
JumboJet wrote: |
U want to be a Mahatama of AWG and not want to wear lion cloth seems a bit dizzy to me |
with all due respects Sir,
we seem to be forgetting the whole point here....spotting is meant to be a fun thing...where does all this "leader" thing come from....all i see going on in this thread is stone throwing....
cheers _________________ blue skies :d |
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Karan69 Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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I got a few requests to take a look at this topic, i havent gone entirely through it but from whatever little i read.
shekar wrote: | The hillock that we spot from, is the land owned by the airport authority?....cus if it is .....we might en up in some trouble and lose this beautiful spot |
Which is exactly what will happen ,we will loose what we have.
i do not want to discourage anybody so i would say do whatever yoll decide, because if it works out it will be great.
Remember India is no London or Sydney or Canada, honestly we are lucky they have issued us a Photography Permit Pass by the DGCA,
I know, and those who read my 9W 343 AMD trip report will have an idea of what i experienced with the vigilance department, just for taking a simple photo, do yoll honestly think these guys will let us shoot pics from a hill.
Let things be momentarily the way they are, however if yoll unanimously decide to do something abt it i will support yoll.
Ask Vivek, Himmat the way the CISF told us to put the cameras down even though we were on a road.
For now cherish what we have because the views from the hill are more than enough to have send me atleast 15-20 emails from places like ZRH BHX KUL HKG SYD asking me abt aviation photography in India and most of those photographers have been on the top 24 hr list more than 10-12 times.
As i said earlier Cherish What we have ,
Karan |
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Birendra Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I think Karan does make sense here, and so does Shekar.
So we EJECT the idea or someone want me to still be strapped on the seat! _________________ Dictum meum pactum, "My word is my bond". |
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HAWK21M Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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My opinion is You folks are doing a great job.Just continue spotting & get organised into a disiplined group.Thereafter maybe step two can be considered ie approaching the Authorities.
regds
MEL _________________ Think of the Brighter side !!! |
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aarbee Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Karan69 wrote: |
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As i said earlier Cherish What we have ,
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Even though I'm not quite involved with this, I agree with Karan. At times, just keep the authorities out of this.
Cheers,
R |
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JumboJet Member
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Mind Over Matter
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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HAWK21M wrote: | My opinion is You folks are doing a great job.Just continue spotting & get organised into a disiplined group.Thereafter maybe step two can be considered ie approaching the Authorities.
regds
MEL |
What did i tell u ppl, Mel always doles out sensible advice. Involve him, rope him, and im sure ull be surprised what u ppl can achieve.
And yes nothing worth while was ever achieved by deep thought and planning.
So think deep, plan and ur airbone. _________________ I love the smell of Jet Fuel in the morning. |
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Birendra Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | So think deep, plan and ur airbone |
Currently the AWG status is AOG. _________________ Dictum meum pactum, "My word is my bond". |
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Birendra Member
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